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QUESTIONING PROPOSITION 8: No need for Prop 8

Dustin Stonecipher

Daily Texan Columnist

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Published: Wednesday, November 12, 2008

Updated: Wednesday, November 12, 2008

Nov. 4 was a historic night. But while votes for President-elect Barack Obama were being counted, another monumental decision was slightly overlooked in California. On that memorable night, 52 percent of Californian’s decided that egg-laying hens and calves raised for veal should have more rights, and homosexual couples should have fewer. Similar propositions banning gay marriage in Arizona and Florida also passed at 56 percent and 62 percent, respectively.

The priorities here seem a bit skewed. I’m glad that the hen providing me with my breakfast staple has enough room to turn around now, but what about the happiness of millions of Americans?

I can understand why people are against gay marriage. I am a Christian, so I don’t personally agree with gay marriage on a moral ground. But since this is my personal view, it only affects my personal actions. It isn’t the government’s responsibility to turn America into a Christian stronghold. The mission of the government is to protect the lives and rights of its citizens.

Gay marriage does not quash the rights of America’s straight citizens. It doesn’t put their lives in danger. In fact, if gay marriage were allowed, I don’t think any person in this country would even notice a difference in his or her daily life.

According to the Web site protectmarriage.com, gay marriage hurts America because it hurts our children. “Because public schools are already required to teach the role of marriage in society as part of the curriculum, schools will now be required to teach students that gay marriage is the same as traditional marriage, starting with kindergarteners. By saying that a marriage is between ‘any two persons’ rather than between a man and a woman, the Court decision has opened the door to any kind of ‘marriage.’ This undermines the value of marriage altogether at a time when we should be restoring marriage, not undermining it.”

I don’t think the passing of this bill would require schools to teach lesson plans about the wonders of homosexual love. If a child is swayed by the line “any two persons,” then there are deeper issues to deal with. And the idea of restoring marriage? With divorce rates approaching 60 percent, straight couples aren’t really doing a great job keeping marriage sacred.

Marriage is an important part of the Christian religion, and as such, Christian couples should consider it a sacred commitment. Christian parents should teach ideas of marriage as they want their children to understand it, and young Christians should seek the traditional man plus woman marriage to create that hallowed bond.

But our government isn’t a “Christian” government. It is an American government. As an organization that seeks to protect the rights of all its citizens, our government should not forget about homosexual couples. They deserve the right to happiness in every way that I do, and until gay marriage intrudes on and takes away the rights of others, then it is a right they should have.

As it stands now, Californians, Arizonians and Floridians have voted to ban gay marriage. That is a product of our democratic government and should be respected. However, the next time voting rolls around, I hope people understand that while chicken rights are important, people rights are much more so.

Stonecipher is an English and history senior.

Comments

15 comments
Christian Man
Mon Nov 17 2008 17:52
Amy, Jesus central message was that we are sinners and are in need of salvation and a redeemer. He never condoned sin he asked for repentence. I believe if Christ were on the Earth today he would be saddened much more by the moral decline of our country, the neglect of Gods law. Homosexuality, adultary, pre-marital sex, etc are all sinful acts people who are ingaged in such practice need to understand that what they are doing is displeasing to the Lord, not that what they are doing is just a matter of preference. The Church has an obligation to oppose such behavior.
Amy
Thu Nov 13 2008 10:15
Dustin, I really appreciate your position. Everyone is entitled to their personal beliefs about the morality of same-sex relationships, but to actively deny the rights of citizens to enter into contract together is simply wrong. I think the word marriage gets thrown in and it riles people up. Faith organizations can make decisions to embrace or reject same sex commitments, but as far as the government is concerned, a marriage/union is two people entering into a contract with one another, and it is shameful that in the United States -- the country that boasts of freedom and equality -- people rally to legalize oppression and discrimination.

I am a Christian, and I feel that some of my fellow Christians who actively deny gay rights in the name of "Christianity," need reminding that sadly, in our not-so-distant past, The Bible was also used to defend segregation, slavery and the inferiority of women. What about "Then give back to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's" (Luke 20:25)? The most central part of Jesus's message is to love one another with compassion and empathy. If Christ were on Earth today, he would be saddened hate and intolerance some proclaiming His name direct towards our gay brothers and sisters.

Nick
Thu Nov 13 2008 02:59
In response to Dave, you may understand the anger being directed at mormons more if you understood what it was like to be discriminated against. There is a big difference in being the minority and having others views forced upon you and being the majority and doing the forcing. I am a non-mormon who grew up in Utah (talk about having others views forced upon you) and I have always been very tolerent towards Mormons and stood up for their beleifs on mnay occasions since leaving Utah. However, at this point I feel nothing but contempt and disbelief over the Mormon Church's actions (as well as others). I am embarrassed for my mormon relatives to be associated with promoting discrimination. I have no doubt that within my life time people will back on this era, and those people who opposed equal marriage rights, in the same light that we view Brown v. the board of education, the dred scott decision and other ugly parts of the American past and the civil rights movement. The idea that allowing equal marriage rights will de-value "traditional marriage" seems strange since six other countries ( Belgium, canada, south africa, Norway, Spain, and the Netherlands) and have not experienced any such affect. We need to step a back and realize that we are all always uncomfortable with change, even when it is the right thing (ie see allowing women to vote, people of color to vote, own property, be free!!! attend the same school and whites, and even share a drinking fountain). Do you want to be remembered as somebody who fought for fairness? When your grandkids ask if you wanted equal rights for all americans what will you answer? Remember, as we decided with schools, seperate can never be equal. Offering a civil union as a compromise is nothing more than a excuse to put of a change that makes us uncomfortable. Its time that we "civilized" and "educated" people realize that this proverbial boogey man is not quite as scary as we once thought, and for that matter not nearly as scary as the thought that so many people want to legalize and promote discrimination. So dave, you don't like the anger and hatred (which I totally understand not liking), but imagine if the hatred and discrimination not only was encouraged but mandated by the state.
Dave
Wed Nov 12 2008 23:25
Kind of interesting that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is being targeted for this protest. Yes we voted and supported the campaign as individuals exercising our right to free speech. No we are not the 52% of the vote that defined marriage between a man and a woman. Mormons make up only 2% of the population. But it seems like gays want to focus 100% of their anger upon us. At no time during the campaign did I flip anyone off, BA someone, call people opposing me names like bigots or haters. Our view was represented with respect and dignity for those who opposed us. In the media I have seen the opposition stand in front of our places of worship, make offending jestures, call us names and mock our beliefs. Where is the hate coming from? I know thousands of Mormons and I don't know a single one that hates gay people. I have a belief that marriage is a social institution that is defined as a relationship between a man and a woman. There are many reasons that I believe that way. Gays for many years have asked us to be tolerant. So shouldn't tolerance be afforded on both sides of the fence?
Condoleezza Rice
Wed Nov 12 2008 20:24
Would gay marriage turn straight people gay? NO
Would gay marriage prevent straight couples from marrying? NO
Would gay marriage encourage more divorces among traditional marriages? NO




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